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Hi guy’s long time reader and I have posted previous posts under a different sign in name I forgot my password so I setup this one,

 

Before I start may I say what a fantastic site giving hope to many people and providing many great results with meds and hair transplants this site as taught me that there is optimism for my hair that I can accomplish a full head of hair and prevent mpb.

 

Any ways Im a male in my early twenties I have noticed that over the last year and half my hair has began to change I have good coverage but it is thinning at the front and a little at the crown. So i started proscar from dr Ashcroft at the start of October I divide into four parts of each table and began to take a quarter on a daily basis , the first two months I found the treatment was taking effect my hair was growing faster and a little more thickness was noticeable. But by March and April my hair has got a lot thinner again “April being the 6th month in use of proscare”.

 

Also how can I over come this? Is this a sign of shedding? Should I up the dosage and cut the tabulates into half’s and take on a daily basis? I also shower every day and use L’Oreal’s thickening shampoo for men I found the results great at first by now I feel it may be acting as just another shampoo ? Should I stop using it daily and try something else or keep at it ?

 

I can tell the meds have had a effect as my back and sides are very thick as my barber told me two weeks ago, just wondering if there is ne thing to increase thickness on top e.g front mid crown?

 

 

I wonder if I could have some help on what more can I do ? Should I put msm into my treatment? I see that boots has a hair loss treatment available what exactly is that? Does it work or is it also a sham? What about that treatment ex Footballer Lee Sharpe promoters is that also a sham?

 

I know in the coming years I am going to save for a hair transplant with dr feller any one got nay ideas on how much it would cost then to replace/insert on thing hair on top ?

 

Thanks for reading this and I hope some of you great people can help me :)

 

John

 

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Hair grows slowly and when you take finasteride you should only see a definite change in hair density after 6 or even 12 months. It is possible that you are experiencing a shed at the moment; that's natural and I wouldn't be too worried about it.

 

As for improving your regimen, you're only using 1/3 of the Big 3. The easiest addition to the regimen is probably Nizoral anti-dandruff shampoo; the active ingredient in Nizoral, ketoconazole, is a mild anti-androgen. Boots offers Nizoral 2% at £7.99. A 100ml bottle should last you several months as you're only going to be using a relatively small amount twice a week. You can buy it online and save money with www.quidco.com because Boots participates in the Quidco cashback scheme.

 

If you want a stronger shampoo than Nizoral I recommend Revita. This has 1% ketoconazole but also a whole bunch of other stuff (caffeine, emu oil, copper peptides, apple polyphenols) reputed to be 'good' for hair. It's £15.00 delivered from www.islandcosmetics.com

 

A obvious next step would be to add minoxidil, although I regard two applications of this product per day (for life!) as overly fussy. www.minoxidil-direct.co.uk offers a 12 month supply of generic Minoxidil 5% (12 60ml bottles), equivalent to Regaine Extra Strength, for £53.99. The monthly cost is £53.99/12 = £4.50. They also offer the rather more expensive (but more cosmetically elegant) Rogaine foam formulation.

 

If you want to upgrade your DHT inhibitor you could consider switching from finasteride to dutasteride. Avodart is pretty expensive but you can buy Dutas (Indian generic dutasteride made by Dr Reddys) cheaply at www.inhousepharmacy.co.uk A month's supply of 30 capsules costs £21.94, but you actually only need to take about 2 capsules per week. 2*4 = 8 capsules per month, so 30 capsules should last you 3.75 months (30/8). The monthly cost comes in at £21.94/3.75 = £5.85, not bad for a VERY powerful drug.

 

BTW I should mention that the Boots Hair Retention Programme just involves Propecia so it's irrelevant to you. It's about £30 per month I think, so quite expensive (you get a MUCH better deal from Dr Ashcroft), but Boots gives you money off other products (probably Regaine?) as part of the promotion.

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Forget all the crappy pills and potions that don't work. All the money you are blowing on that crap is off your HT money and a HT is the only thing that will give you your hair back. Well OK, finasteride may help you keep some hair at the back but it won't do anything for the front - minoxidil and Nizoral are absolutely useless and more often than not just make things worse.

 

You are probably looking at around $9000 to get the front third/front half of your head filled with hair. Dr Feller's price list is on his site: Cost of a HT with Dr Feller (look at the "Standard Strip Transplantation (FUT)" column. The usual number of grafts for the front third is around 2500 grafts and maybe 3000+ to get the front half filled in depending on how high your hair line is.)

 

I fell for all the hair snake oils, pills and potions - nothing worked - total waste of time and money. Get a HT and 6 months later you'll have more hair than before and by 9 or 10 months after you'll have loads of hair - and the transplanted hair is permanent, you don't need any pills and potions to keep it on your head.

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I think whether or not you consider a HT must depend on the stage of hair loss you've reached. A HT is a very radical and risky step, dependent entirely upon the skill of the individual surgeon. There are some good individual results but I don't think it ever looks completely natural. The main problems with a HT are the upfront cost, trauma, scarring, risk of infection and the fact that you may or may not be pleased with the outcome (unfortunately, you'll be stuck with it).

 

If you have a small or moderate amount of hair loss you're better off trying to save the hair you already have, and maybe regrow a little, with Propecia, Avodart, Minoxidil etc etc. These treatments aren't 'miraculous' by any means, but they are scentifically proven, they CAN retain the hair you already have and they CAN regrow some as well. Compared to what was available ten or fifteen years ago, they are AMAZING! What's more they DO work at the front, although not as well as at the crown. Individual response will vary, of course.

 

A HT doctor will actually place you on Propecia or Avodart anyway, because you have a limited amount of hair that's insensitive to male hormones (taken from the back of the head) and the name of the game is to try to save as much as you can.

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There are some good individual results but I don't think it ever looks completely natural

 

You have obviously never been to a Feller openhouse ;)

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There are some good individual results but I don't think it ever looks completely natural

 

You have obviously never been to a Feller openhouse ;)

 

Just a personal opinion. Obviously some surgeons are better than others and some individual results are better than others. It's not something I'd ever go for myself, unless the situation was very drastic. And even then I would have tremendous misgivings. :unsure:

 

I don't think Bodybag (initial poster) is really at the HT stage yet. Before getting a HT, it is wise to see if he responds to Propecia, Minoxidil, Avodart etc. Thanks to the internet, these treatments are no longer expensive. He can have a very powerful regimen (no snake oils) for about £13 per month. If he can keep or regrow enough hair through treatments, he may not need surgery.

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There are some good individual results but I don't think it ever looks completely natural

 

You have obviously never been to a Feller openhouse ;)

 

Just a personal opinion. Obviously some surgeons are better than others and some individual results are better than others. It's not something I'd ever go for myself, unless the situation was very drastic. And even then I would have tremendous misgivings. :unsure:

 

I don't think Bodybag (initial poster) is really at the HT stage yet. Before getting a HT, it is wise to see if he responds to Propecia, Minoxidil, Avodart etc. Thanks to the internet, these treatments are no longer expensive. He can have a very powerful regimen (no snake oils) for about £13 per month. If he can keep or regrow enough hair through treatments, he may not need surgery.

 

 

Does the finasteride cause the temples to recede more, i have notice that things are getting worse, its getting hard to disguise now??????

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Does the finasteride cause the temples to recede more, i have notice that things are getting worse, its getting hard to disguise now??????

 

No! But finasteride isn't massively effective at the temples. The best results are seen at the crown and vertex (top of the head). Topicals like minoxidil, tricomin, folligen etc are probably the best you can do for the temples.

 

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Does the finasteride cause the temples to recede more, i have notice that things are getting worse, its getting hard to disguise now??????

 

No! But finasteride isn't massively effective at the temples. The best results are seen at the crown and vertex (top of the head). Topicals like minoxidil, tricomin, folligen etc are probably the best you can do for the temples.

Dont suppose any1 would know if taking Viagra can cause hair loss, im thinkin of taking it but im a little frightened of the outcome?

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Dont suppose any1 would know if taking Viagra can cause hair loss, im thinkin of taking it but im a little frightened of the outcome?

 

The most common side effects of VIAGRA are headache, facial flushing, and upset stomach. Less commonly, bluish vision, blurred vision, or sensitivity to light may briefly occur. Never heard of anyone losing hair as a result.

 

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