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  1. Yea i know but i had this strange idea that it may have maintained what i had at the time i started taking it, not inducing a severe shed (& i have yet to see any solid evidence of the shed hairs returning) & then maintaining what's left after that
  2. Well incredibly it's been 12 months since I started fin (10 months on Dr Ashcroft proscar). I've taken pics at 3 month intervals and looking back, I see little or no change other than the shedding which affected me in the first 3 months or so. So maybe the fin is maintaining the hair that I now have...? Still unhappy about the shedding though..... Anyway I know I need to give it the full 12 months on the Dr Ashcroft proscar which will be 2 months from now.
  3. 11 month update (9 months on Dr Ashcroft proscar): Little change. If anything, a slight worsening of my situ (thinning). Can't be sure though. I can feel some little short hairs in the crown area but those have been there for months and don't seem to be getting any longer! Still hanging in there with the help of nanogen. Know what you mean about being our own worst critics. Virtually no one ever looks at my hair. It's me who frets about it.
  4. I'm not so sure. Inhouse & United seemed to have a good reputation, I checked before ordering. But I did alternate just in case one or other order contained fake drugs. And then there is the shedding, whose severity, timing and duration would tend to indicate that something was having an effect. But since I'm planning to give it another 3-4 months, I may as well make it 5 I've already had more shedding since starting the Dr Ashcroft proscar, although only for the first 1-2 months after that. I think I was on course to take 25 years, or longer, until last year's shed kicked in anyway Thanks Gav.
  5. I started the Dr Ashcroft proscar about 2 months in, 1.25mg per day. So I have now been on it for 7 months. Before that I bought generic fin (the Cipla and Dr Reddys variants) from inhouse and united, and alternated between them day by day. I think the main concern about fake drugs was the genuine propecia? I have to say though that the scale and rate of shedding was something I had never experienced before I've been wondering if my very gradual loss could indicate a slow hair cycle? In which case there may be hope yet!! Or does everyone's hair cycle have the same/similar duration? Could this also be an indication of a slow recovery after any future HT?
  6. Hey!!! Spex said the shed hair WILL (note the caps!) return! I am trying to be patient!!! PRP sounds interesting but like one other poster I don't fancy having to have it done every 6 months. Even if it can be done in the UK I'd still have to travel since I'm not UK mainland.
  7. Great encouragement as always S I've been taking pics every 3 months and the May '09 ones looks pretty much the same as the Feb '09 ones. The Nov '08 ones are not much different but the Aug '08 pics (pre-shed) show significantly more hair particularly in the frontal area. Back then I was buzzing down to #6 on top and (just about) getting away with *no* nanogen. You seem very confident that my shed hair will return, let's hope you're right!!!! So the meds should prevent further loss based on the hair I had in Aug '08? I'll ride it out for 3/4 months and see what happens. Ta Gav.
  8. I can't see how fin could have made things worse. Let's think about it logically: we know that DHT is a major factor in male pattern hair loss, and we know that fin blocks the formation of DHT. Therefore, taking fin will, at the very least, delay the balding process. All the evidence shows that men who take fin are more likely to retain or regrow more hair than those on placebo. I just don't see how fin could cause more hair loss. http://www.baldingblog.com/2008/11/06/my-d...cause-shedding/ But it's also known (although apparently not documented by the manufacturer) that fin *can* cause shedding. As far as I can see I'm certainly not the only one to have experienced it. All I can say is that for the first 2½-3 months on fin I had a severe shed, the like of which I have not previously experienced and which was completely uncharacteristic of my previously very gradual hair loss. Now I realise that shedding isn't hair loss and that shed hairs should return. But what I'm reporting at 9 months is that those shed hairs have *not* yet returned and I'm wondering if they ever will (still hopeful ) In my book that leaves me worse off than before I started fin (at this moment in time). Although that could change (hopefully).
  9. That's interesting Bob as my experience has been similar. A year ago I really only had bad loss in the crown. I kept my hair short, #1 for the sides and #4 on top, and that was working *ok* until then. After starting fin last August, I almost immediately started a severe shed which appears to have affected the frontal region most severely. So much so that nanogen became a necessity. Unfortunately now it is only just doing the business in the frontal region. And there is not enough hair in the crown for it to work properly at all. I too hope that the fin is working but to date I have not seen any definite positive results (although the shedding stabilised towards the end of last year). I think my hair loss has been so gradual that it's impossible to say if fin is retaining the hair I have now, although I would have expected to see the shed hairs starting to return by now? In work we have just moved to a new facility with open plan office and bright overhead lighting, which is only adding to my misery I will report back in a couple of weeks since that will be 9 months on fin. It's also the point where I saw myself making a decision on whether to go for a HT in 2009. I will of course give the fin the time scale it needs but feel I need to think ahead and perhaps at least plan the next phase. Are you going ahead with a procedure with Dr Feller then Bob? G. Well here's the 9 month update. No great surprises (un?)fortunately. My situ is pretty much the same as it's been for the last 5 months or so. That's good news if it means that the fin has stabilised things, bad news though that I'm still significantly worse off than when I started the fin, mostly (I believe) because of the fin. So where to go from here? Well I'm in two minds. Part of me says give the meds the full 12 months before making any decisions, period. Another part says that it's now unlikely that the fin will provide an acceptable solution by itself and I will end up going down the HT route to some extent or another, and if I get my slot booked I could be well down the recovery route by this time next year (whereas delaying a decision will probably add a year to this). For now the former part is winning.
  10. Sounds like your situ isn't too much different from mine Wayne. But I'm not happy to continue using nanogen forever, at least not because I *have* to. I actually wouldn't mind using it regularly but I would want to be able to choose not to use it on occasions, which I can't do right now. I'm thinking of all the things I have to think twice about doing, anything involving being out in less than perfect weather conditions for a start. Holidays - my kids will want to go swimming with me, etc. It's too restrictive. My wife knows I use bucket loads of it and has commented that my hair looks thicker (while it's actually thinner due to the fin-related shedding). She also knows I'm considering all options including a HT. She says she doesn't mind if I end up bald but deep down I know she loved the great head of hair I used to have, and I know she'll support me whatever way I decide to go with this. Any woman worth her salt should be sympathetic to your situ, especially if you're trying to do something to improve it.
  11. 8½ months on it so far. Severe shedding for the first 3 months, which has been most noticeable in the frontal area (now really dependent on nanogen). *Still* waiting for the shed hairs to return....... May be maintaining the remaining hairs but my hair loss has been very gradual so very difficult to say in this time frame. Regrowth unlikely but overall appearance is much worse due to shedding. No side effects to speak of, possibly slightly more watery semen but hardly worth mentioning. Gav.
  12. Last year I made a conscious decision to go down the route of trying to do something about this (the alternative being cutting it all off - a day which was apparently getting uncomfortably close). This was never going to be a half-hearted effort and I have every intention of exploring all options necessary. Of course it would be good to avoid a HT for all the obvious reasons, but after 8½ months on fin it's still not really looking avoidable During my meeting with spex last October it became clear that I wouldn't want to be having a HT for at least a year since this would be the time required to fully evaluate the fin. I'm still thinking about the end of 2009 as a possible date but if I could just see *any* positive results from the fin I may easily be persuaded to delay this. I'm also aware that I may have a 6 month wait for a HT with a reputable doc, meaning that a decision on any HT in 2009 may need to be made fairly soon I've also been looking at Dr Feller. Gav.
  13. That's interesting Bob as my experience has been similar. A year ago I really only had bad loss in the crown. I kept my hair short, #1 for the sides and #4 on top, and that was working *ok* until then. After starting fin last August, I almost immediately started a severe shed which appears to have affected the frontal region most severely. So much so that nanogen became a necessity. Unfortunately now it is only just doing the business in the frontal region. And there is not enough hair in the crown for it to work properly at all. I too hope that the fin is working but to date I have not seen any definite positive results (although the shedding stabilised towards the end of last year). I think my hair loss has been so gradual that it's impossible to say if fin is retaining the hair I have now, although I would have expected to see the shed hairs starting to return by now? In work we have just moved to a new facility with open plan office and bright overhead lighting, which is only adding to my misery I will report back in a couple of weeks since that will be 9 months on fin. It's also the point where I saw myself making a decision on whether to go for a HT in 2009. I will of course give the fin the time scale it needs but feel I need to think ahead and perhaps at least plan the next phase. Are you going ahead with a procedure with Dr Feller then Bob? G.
  14. It may also worth trying Nizoral twice per week to add to your regime. Nizoral is a shampoo that contains 2% Ketoconazole. One 1998 study showed that Nizoral 2% worked just as well as minoxidil 2% in men with androgenic alopecia. Both medicines increased hair thickness and increased the number of anagen-phase hair follicles on the scalp. Other members of the forum know much more about the product and can advise. Ian, That's interesting, didn't know that. I'll look into that. Just please tell me it doesn't cause <censored> shedding!!!!
  15. Gav, not sure if you are aware or not, but this is the simplicity of it: Finn/Dut: stops/slows hairloss Minox: actually grows hairs Ive been using minox on my front (im early twenties, prob got most hair on this board by far) and ive been regrowing my frontal line. It takes ages but ive managed to grow temple hair right back to a Brad Pitt hairline, but im just waiting to fill the small-receeded parts. Thats how effective it is, but it does take a long time! But some have also had regrowth on fin alone (forty something percent?). Some only maintained the existing hair. And some continued to lose hair. Also, minox = more shedding (initially). Me & my situ can't take that right now. At least until the already shed hairs (hopefully) return They will, right? Right?
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